Indoor Environments Association Podcast

The Cost of No Standards

Indoor Environments Association Season 1 Episode 3

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Episode 3: The Cost of No Standards

What happens when radon and vapor intrusion work goes unregulated? In this episode of the Indoor Environments Podcast, host Diane Swecker explores the real-world risks of operating without consistent standards, certification, or licensing.

She’s joined by two industry leaders:

  • Jane Malone, National Policy Director at the Indoor Environments Association, with more than 40 years of experience in housing and environmental health.
  • Kyle Hoylman, CEO and Co-Founder of Protect Environmental, longtime advocate for radon safety, and Chair of the Kentucky Board of Radon Safety.

Together, they break down:

  • The difference between certification and state licensure
  • Why standards matter for professionals, regulators, and consumers
  • What can go wrong when unqualified contractors do the work
  • How federal programs and national certifications fill the gaps in unregulated states
  • The future of credentialing and enforcement across the U.S.

Whether you’re a radon professional, policymaker, or simply care about healthy housing, this episode makes clear why standards are essential—and what it costs us when they’re missing.

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